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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

This is an interesting read. Now I have applied for the rep office as I was told it will be easier to get an expat pass for a rep office rather than a private limited company.

The rep office has been approved. What I basically want to know now is that once I get my expat permit, can I be employed or become a director of a local company? Or do my salaries and rep office expenses have to be paid for by the parent overseas company?

Do I need to hire local people for my rep office, because on a logical stand point, we are not a huge company and I seem to be able to handle all the work without the need of even a secretary.

So what I can gather is that, a rep office can only incur expenses, it cannot collect any fees. Is this correct? Can it however collect money on behalf of the Singapore Office? Meaning that the Rep office can open a local bank account?

What confuses me is that if the Rep office cannot make money, how can it collect money on behalf of the Singapore office. Because to me, depositing money into the Rep offices bank account, by collecting money on its behalf is showing the govt that it is making money from somewhere. Sorry if it sounds confusing.

The next thing is that in terms of accounting procedures, the rep office has been approved but there are no accounting procedures or assistance regarding these things to come with it.

What is the best way to obtain these kinds of information?

Hope you can assist.

Thank you.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:59 am    Post subject: documents required to set up representative office Reply with quote

hi
you guys keep talking about representative office but nobody mention that how we can set up representative office in malaysia ...what documents have to be issue by parents company??where we suppose to go??what are the process???procedure???
is it all documents have to be certify by malaysian embassies oversea ??or not???
pls put more details on this page
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: documents required to set up representative office Reply with quote

milad wrote:
hi
you guys keep talking about representative office but nobody mention that how we can set up representative office in malaysia ...what documents have to be issue by parents company??where we suppose to go??what are the process???procedure???
is it all documents have to be certify by malaysian embassies oversea ??or not???
pls put more details on this page
thanks


My advice would be to contact an agency specialized in such things as the matter is not easy to handle by yourself. In the meantine: for setting up a regional office (from memory) you need:
- statute of your parent companies
- board of directors listing
- Chamber of Commerce registration of your parent company or equivalent in your country
- Latest balance sheet
- Letter signed by one of the directors on the board listing authorizing you to open the office on their behalf
- A letter signed by your CEO

All documents have to be in English and certified. Not sure about Tahiland, but usually if you get it translated by the translators accredited by your Embassy and then you get the documents certified by your Embassy, it should be accepted.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked long and hard into a rep office and finally gave up. Even though it seems to be allowed by law, there seems to be no forms or process for actually setting one up.

I ended up setting up an Sdn Bhd (private limited) company, with two Ringgit worth of shares, held by my Singapore company.

The effect is the same. As long as anybody who goes to Malaysia to conduct business is paid out of Singapore, I have no Malaysia salary expense, and hence, no need for work permits, etc.

I originally thought I might have to bill through by Malaysia company but I have set all my contracts out of Singapore, with the Singapore entity of my client companies so that I have no Malaysia transactions. If you do have Malaysia transactions, the corporate tax rate is high.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strong Eagle wrote:
I looked long and hard into a rep office and finally gave up. Even though it seems to be allowed by law, there seems to be no forms or process for actually setting one up.


Did you try to do it by yourself or did you hire an agent to do it?
I opened my company regional office here 4 years ago and renewed it twice. And I was supposedely facing more difficulties than a Singaporean company since i had to get everything translated from French.

The main drawback of a Sdn Bhd for an expat is that you cannot benefit form the tax exemption. When working in a Reg Office, an expat is taxed according to the time he spends in the country (if he spends more than 6 months here).
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrice wrote:
Strong Eagle wrote:
I looked long and hard into a rep office and finally gave up. Even though it seems to be allowed by law, there seems to be no forms or process for actually setting one up.


Did you try to do it by yourself or did you hire an agent to do it?
I opened my company regional office here 4 years ago and renewed it twice. And I was supposedely facing more difficulties than a Singaporean company since i had to get everything translated from French.

The main drawback of a Sdn Bhd for an expat is that you cannot benefit form the tax exemption. When working in a Reg Office, an expat is taxed according to the time he spends in the country (if he spends more than 6 months here).


Hired an agent who also acts as my secretary and accounting firm.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hired an agent who also acts as my secretary and accounting firm.


Wow, it is very surprising they did not manage to do it. The only real problem I faced was with bank to get them to open the account for the office. I tried Std Chtd, HSBC, Citybank to no avail, and ended up opening the account at Maybank. But it took me nearly one more year to get them to give us a company checkbook.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My company hired a local law firm and they sorted out our Branch Office for us. It took a while but didn't run into major problems. Haven't tried getting a company bank account though!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:59 pm    Post subject: representative office Reply with quote

hi everyone
as i told you before im planning to set up a representative office in malaysia(its our family business)and i will be in charge of stated office in malaysia as a manager and we will employ 1 local staff perhaps.
but the thing here is that im 25 years old and i heard i need to be 27 in order to get a work permit is that true?do i need to be 27 ?but i dont want to be employed in other companies?its my own business
plz do let me know if you guys have any information
thanks alot
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: representative office Reply with quote

milad wrote:
hi everyone
as i told you before im planning to set up a representative office in malaysia(its our family business)and i will be in charge of stated office in malaysia as a manager and we will employ 1 local staff perhaps.
but the thing here is that im 25 years old and i heard i need to be 27 in order to get a work permit is that true?do i need to be 27 ?but i dont want to be employed in other companies?its my own business
plz do let me know if you guys have any information
thanks alot


Are you (your company) going to be earning an income in Malaysia? If so, a representative office won't work. If you come in as the director/manager of the company, I believe you get a different type of permit.
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