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Volker



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Mr. Vincent,

thks for the swift reply, but I still don't want to give up.

As far as I know I am entitled to bring a maid into Malaysia. Now if I would declare my "wife or friend" as the "maid", there should be no reason for objection? (Or is there any law in Malaysia not accepting to have a child with your maid? Laughing )

I could apply with my son as the dependant under 18, and with my "wife" as the maid. What is your opinion?
What would be the criteria to accept a maid?

Besdides, fulfilling all official criteria to bring a "maid" in order to fit our family into the legal frame of acceptance, I am sure even an MM2H Officer would understand the situation. What do you think?

Any comments on that?

Cheers,
Volker
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To bring a "maid" from your home country, there are a few criteria:

1) The maid must be a lady between 21 yrs old and 45 yrs old.
2) MM2H applicant must have a family in Malaysia, and the family must have children below 15 years old or elderly parents.

On your case, if your child is below 15 years old, and your "wife" is below 45 yrs old, you should be able to get her in as "maid", but it will only be a temporary solution, as maid can only have less than 2 years visa, and once your "wife" is over 45 yrs old she may be rejected for renewal.

Are you sure that "registering a marriage" is not an option that you would consider?

On the other hand, there may be another way of getting your "wife" into Malaysia with a "longer" term visa. It is by enrolling your child in a school in Malaysia, and then she can join family under a special visa given to parents of student. But I doubt they will issue a visa of more than 6 months. (This I will confirm)

Regards,

Vincent Fong
Aubella - Malaysia My Second Home
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Volker



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Mr. Vincent,

from a first glance a marriage certificate might be the easiest solution, however there might be reasons why this is not possible......

Though we comply with all ages (son and "maid") you are right that in the long run this will not be ideal as she will also cross 45 in a few years only.

I wonder if this is really such a strict requirement or if prooving that we have been living together for the last 15 years and even the birth certificate of our son shows us as parents would not qualify for an exception?

Any other possibility?

Thks n bst reg
Volker
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:24 am    Post subject: visa Reply with quote

Can you not get her social visit visa to be in Malaysia? After she finds a job in Malaysia, the social visit visa can be converted to "work permit" visa which is a long term solution. Isn't it?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

thks for your interest in this topic, I am also sure there will be many more cases like this in future.

Your suggestion works theoretically, but is not realistic. Reason being that a malaysian company employing her would need to proof to the government that this job cannot be performed by any malaysian, which is usually justified only with higher qualification (wich she has).
Then again, she would need to draw a higher salary according to qualification as well, on which taxes are to be paid, etc. She might really need to work to justify any salary drawn and tax paid. This actually forfeits the idea of "retiring".

I guess there will be a lot of similar cases, like "estranged" couples where a divorce is actually not possible for some reason or the other. Somewhere else I read of a disabled guy who wants to bring his sister to look after him in Malaysia - also not possible- though it's family!
I feel the authorities need to look at this and to loosen up a little, judging case by case!
Why not simply put the option of one (or more?) "dependant" (besides children) and open the MM2H market further? What fear is actually behind bringing a non married "dependant"into Malaysia?
Indecent behaviour? Same Sex Couples? What is it?

Whatever it is - they would be mostly over 50! What would they do?

.... in our case when we enter with 50 years of age, living together for the last 16 years, with a child of 13 going to school, having an apartment in Malaysia, - we won't be kissing in the park!
Promisse!!!!!!!

Nevertheless, thks for your aphorism - if anyone has any further idea, I appreciate any further input! Anyone - anything?!

Cheers,
Volker
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Shep






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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi. I am new here. Am in my early 50s. Thinking of getting into this MMSH programme when I retire. Am from Singapore.
Advice needed:
a . Can I sign on this programme if I plan to be working in Singapore and perhaps living partly in Singapore and partly in Malaysia (different days of the week)?
b. I am exploring the possibility of getting a house in the Iskandar Development area ( terrace or semi D). Is it a safe place? Where to find the various houses for sale?
c. Is Iskandar Development anywhere near Gelang Patah? Am interested in a house near that place.
Much thanks!

Oh- a few 'less serious' questions:
a. Is there a place where one can learn the Malaysian culture and Bahasa - ie for expats?
b. How many dogs are allowed in each household in Malaysia (in Singapore- 3 dogs per landed property/pte property eg condo and 1 small sized dog for a HDB flat). Are there such rules in Malaysia?
How much is dog licence? Thanks.
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amienleo
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Shep,

Yes. You will be able to participate for the MM2H program even though you are working in Singapore. You are just not allowed to work in Malaysia.

Please try to post at the Johore section so that you will be getting quicker reply.

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Shep






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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amienleo wrote:
Hi Shep,

Yes. You will be able to participate for the MM2H program even though you are working in Singapore. You are just not allowed to work in Malaysia.

Please try to post at the Johore section so that you will be getting quicker reply.

Cheers


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